Top 50 HR & Recruiting bad asses in APAC featuring – Tracy Earl

Well, hello there…

It has been over 7 months since I released a blog post and over a year since I have posted in the Top 50 HR & Recruiting bad asses series.

I guess you could say I have been busy for the last year and finding time to write is a luxury I have not had. However…

What motivated me to write again is seeing Greg Savage‘s tweet

‘No, agency recruitment will NOT be ‘uberised’ any time soon’

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Well actually I think he has tweeted it around 10 times since and every-time I see this tweet and people engaging with it, it makes me really angry.

Why? Well I for one believe Agency Recruitment WILL be and SHOULD be ‘uberised’ and this needs to happen sooner rather than later.

When you get into an (immaculately clean car) Uber usually they will offer you some mints or a bottle of water and are very nice to you. They make your ride a much better experience than a taxi driver and you also want to be nice to them. Sure they are hoping for 5 stars but they are also just providing a better service to be honest.

I have not been quiet when I have talked about agency recruitment needing to lift it’s game and if you follow me online or come to any recruitment meetup you will hear me preach about how this needs to be fixed. Well imagine if you would that agency recruitment was uberised and everyone was running their own buisness and responsible and accountable for their actions? Insert a better service industry and a better candidate and client experience.

So I for one look forward to the day when agency recruitment is uberised and think it is not too far away. Software is eating the world and so if you are putting your head in the sand and hoping your service industry will be fine, then enjoy the sand on the beach as you will have a lot more time to walk along it when you are un-employed.

One of the people who is proof of this is Tracy Earl who has recently left internal recruitment to start her own company. I will let Tracy tell you the reasons below.


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Tracy, what do you do in the HR /  recruiting scene?

For the past six years, I’ve worked in in-house recruitment teams. Most recently as a Talent Sourcing Strategist at Xero where I was responsible for sourcing awesome new Xeros, talent mapping, driving recruitment projects forward and creating Xero’s social media recruitment strategy.

I’m super passionate about the recruitment industry but over the years i’ve seen some cringe worthy recruitment practice. I want to change the way that in-house recruiters and hiring managers work together with recruitment agencies so I’ve just started a recruitment business called Say Hello. I source talented humans through social media channels and connect them with businesses and start-ups to help them scale. I also founded the #aucklandrec meetup which is a quarterly event for recruiters and HR professionals.

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Why / how did you get into the industry?

I never dreamt about becoming a recruiter – I wanted to be a journalist! I’m quite an inquisitive person, I enjoy asking questions so I studied journalism when I left school. I was freelancing for a few magazines but found working from home in my first job difficult, so I went to sign up for temp work and the agency offered me a role – I’ve been working in the industry ever since. Recruitment has changed significantly since 2007 when I started out  and I can honestly say that I’ve grown so much as a recruiter in the last two years. I basically live on social media where I source and connect with talented individuals, putting them in touch with organisations who I think will value their skills – and I get paid to do this – it’s awesome!

What is something we don’t know about you?

I used to be a bit of a clown when I was younger. Not the class clown, but a knife and fire juggling, animal balloon making, unicycle riding clown.  

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Which people inspire you globally?

I’ve got to know some pretty inspiring people in my lifetime – my dad is definitely one of them. Dad moved to NZ from England after meeting my mum and he started a business here – he’s the most hard-working man you’ll meet and I am super proud of him and everything he has achieved.

I’m also inspired by Harvey Spector from Suits – his character is witty, charming, and well…he’s a babe.

Rod Drury – he’s down to earth –   it doesn’t matter how big Xero grows, you can still find him yarning to Xero employees, meeting new starters and engaging with his twitter followers.

What about companies then, which inspire you globally?

I’m inspired by companies who try new things, whether they work or not – I admire their bravery and ability to learn from their mistakes or bask in the glory when they get stuff right. I attended Talent Connect in Sydney last year and I was impressed with what Atlassian had been doing in the recruitment space. Xero has always been an inspiring company, the pace at which they move was right up my alley and  it was great to play a huge part in helping them double their workforce. I’m inspired by great entrepreneurs and small business owners; after becoming one myself, just a few weeks ago, I’ve worn ALL the hats, and it’s been super exciting but has presented lots of interesting challenges!

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What advice would you give someone looking to enter this industry?

Go into recruitment with an open mind, figure out what works best but be open to taking different approaches and trying new things. Oh, and definitely come along to a recruitment meet-up, it’s an awesome opportunity to learn from your peers, share challenges and network (and beer, beer, beer).

What is your favourite drink?

That’s an easy one. Beer. I crave beer as often as I crave sugary sweets. I like a good craft beer and try newbies all the time. A true Wellingtonian, I also appreciate a good coffee – I wouldn’t be able to keep my eyes open at the moment without it!

What are you currently reading?

I’ve just finished reading ‘The life changing magic of tidying up’ by Marie Kondo. After reading that book, I managed to get rid of five bags of stuff I really didn’t need and it felt so good. Read the book, you’ll see what I mean.

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Why do you love the HR and recruiting industry?

I love being given the opportunity to connect people – whether it’s helping people find jobs, helping clients find candidates or introducing friends who haven’t met before – connecting people gives me a great buzz – I feel like ‘Hitch’. Since starting the Auckland Rec meetup, I’ve met some awesome people in this industry who are all super supportive of each-other.

Who would be top 5 on your list:

In no particular order as they’re all rad:

Troy Hammond – He’s been such a great business mentor to me since starting Say Hello – he’s completely in the know with all things recruitment, social and and he doesn’t do stupid things that lots of agency recruiters do often. High fives to Troy.

Mike Hutcheson – He’s not a recruiter, he’s an advertising and branding genius. I heard Hutch speak at an event recently – he’s been a career crush of mine ever since.

Kirsti Grant – She’s recruiting for kickass companies and launching Populate but Kirsti always makes the time to share her knowledge with those in our industry

Johnny Campbell – Founder of Social Talent – sourcing training for recruiters. I completed my Social Talent training this year and highly recommend it.

Caitriona Staunton Head of recruiting at Atlassian – they’re always thinking up awesome recruitment campaigns –  I love their ‘Europe, we’re coming for your geek’s’ campaign!  


 

Thanks Trace, I look forward to seeing you kick ass with Say Hello and help to ‘uberise’ the industry. 😉

Disclaimer – Tracy was not in the original Top 50 I published, though she has been just too damn good at recruitment to not add in. 

 

Top 50 HR & Recruiting bad asses in APAC featuring – Iain MacGibbon

Welcome back to my series on the top 50 HR and Recruiting bad-asses in APAC.

Before we hear from #9 on the list I wanted to take a moment to tell you about some exciting events coming up next week. I am sure by now if you work in IT recruitment internal or agency you have heard of http://www.IT18.co.nz. If you have not yet got your tickets there is still time and so I really encourage you to go and learn from some of the amazing people. I have had the privilege of hearing some of them before and vogue for those, though I am really excited about this one as some even I have not yet seen talk.

What you might not know about is “The Wellington Recruiters Meetup.”

I got talking with Jade Shearstone, Kirsti Grant and Tracy Earl over lunch about why I was writing this blog. “To help people” and the conversation went to… “Well why are we not hosting meetups to help people who cannot afford conference tickets”

So I did and I am really lucky to have Laura Stoker and Matt Pontin speaking at our first meetup on the 23rd this month. Jump on and register as the spaces are limited. Click on the picture below to register and come and along. It’s free and we will sort out beer, wine and food for you all too.

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So hopefully it is a success in Wellington and we can emulate it in Auckland too.

So…. On to #9 who is the phenomenally talented Iain MacGibbon.

I have admired Iain and Farrow Jamieson for a while now and have heard nothing but good feedback about them all everywhere I have been. Hat tip from me too Iain as you and your team are definitely some of the good ones who lift the profile of our industry.

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Iain, what do you do in the HR/Recruiting scene?

I own a company called Farrow Jamieson where I lead a team of talented recruiting professionals in Auckland and Christchurch. While we have been operating for over 30 years I think in this business you reinvent yourself over 5+ years to stay relevant. It is one of the most dynamic industries I have ever been involved in.

Why/How did you get into the industry?

I had sold another business and was looking around when I met the owners of Farrow Jamieson. I had some exposure to the sector as my wife had been at Morgan & Banks (Hudson now) so I met the owners and while that seems like only yesterday it was almost 25 years ago. I like the interaction with Boards and CEO’s discussing how to make their businesses better. Once you have the capital sorted its down to the people you can get around you.

What is something we don’t know about you?

In the last few years I have been more strongly involved in social media than is potentially wise , so as my mate Kirsti Grant says, you probably know too much already; like Vespas, Craft beer, Fishing.

I really enjoy making bread. There’s something about the whole tactile, smell and texture that is relaxing and very satisfying.

Which people inspire you globally?

I always duck these sort of questions if possible because of the danger of the whole “false gods’ fiasco. I don’t know whether I ‘m eclectic or just ADHD because the people I admire moves around a lot.

The common thread is command of language (written and oral).

I had the mind-blowing experience of being present when Nelson Mandela spoke in Auckland. Actually he didn’t need to speak, the sheer presence of the man was one of the most extraordinary experiences of my life.

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What about companies then, which inspire you globally?

Companies that reinvent themselves. Some only do it once and then fade (Nokia) others keep doing it;

Apple of course, because they have reinvented not only themselves but entire categories.

Blackberry Phenomenal patent bank from their R&D. Who knows they may even survive. During the Christchurch earthquake our Team were stranded on the 9th floor of our building for 4 hours. They were eventually rescued by crane. The city had virtually no communication networks that were working, apart from blackberry messenger. I am always grateful to Blackberry for enabling us to communicate with our people.

Staedler I used a Staedler whiteboard marker recently and will never use one of the rubbish unbranded ones again. Did I mention that I get very angry about dry marker pens when I am writing?

What advice would you give someone looking to enter this industry?

Try and learn from the best. Be confident about speaking up to clients, bosses and co-workers about what you think is right. Learn from everyone.

What is your favourite drink?

Emersons Pilsner is world-class.

But I have become a fan of One Fat Trout, mostly because of desire. My sons have told me I can only drink it after I have caught a trout. So, I get thirsty quite a bit

What are you currently reading?

I read a lot (see above, re eclectic) . Currently reading a hilarious book by John Grace Brideshead Abbreviated. A synopsis of 100 classics of the twentieth century, written in the style of each book, with a twist.

Just finished The Buried Giant by Kazuo Ishiguro which was probably my most enjoyable book of the year so far.

And started implementing The Power of Scrum by Jeff Sutherland just to annoy the team at FJ

Why do you love the HR and Recruiting industry?

I feel genuinely privileged to work in an industry where we change people’s lives, every day. Who wouldn’t bounce out of bed every day when you get the chance to make magic happen. A great person gets a chance to shine and a company improves its business.

If you don’t enjoy that feeling then you shouldn’t be in the business.

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Who would be top 5 on your list?

  1. Andrew Banks and Geoff Morgan. – They changed an industry, several times.
  2. Paul Bassat, Andrew Bassat and Matt Rockman – Started Seek and changed the industry
  3. Angela Atkins and Amanda Sterling – Both pushing the boundaries and causing mayhem in HR
  4. Troy Hammond – I know its your blog and I am mentioning your name, but you are prepared to say out loud how you feel and while I don’t always agree with you I respect your right to say it.
  5. Mark Sumner and Matt Pontin – Back to my taking risks argument.

Thanks Iain.

Troy

Top 50 HR & Recruiting bad asses in APAC featuring – Mark Sumner

Happy Monday everyone.

If you are new to this series please read this first in order to understand what I am trying to do.

In a nutshell, I am trying to help raise the profile of our industry and help our fellow HR and Recruiting people teach and learn.

I was at lunch the other day with Kirsti Grant, Jade Sheartsone and Tracy Earl and the topic came up that;

If you truly are trying to help all our industry then why don’t we all start some meetups to help people?

Not just meetups for recruiters and HR folk to get better, though a place where potentially a young start-up that cannot afford to hire an internal recruiter or pay agencies fees can also learn from us.

So I did.

I put my money (yes it costs to start a meetup) where my mouth is and have started the Wellington Recruitment Meetup.

If you are in Wellington or come to Welly then you should jump in and join, i am going to organise events and stuff soon.

Some jump in and join, even better though, I am looking speakers and also for some more people to help me organise and maintain it the site.

Some sponsors would be great too. Sponsors can provide venue, beer, wine and food for our meetups and you can plug your business. Contact me for details of helping run or to sponsor.

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But back to my list of amazeballs HR and Recruiting peeps in APAC…..

So, onto #18 on my list, the #Getin yelling while fist pumping guy that is Mark Sumner.

I have known Mark for a few years now and can tell you he is definitely one of the good guys of our industry. I have always enjoyed a beer a few beers with Mark and shooting the breeze about our industry. Unless you are hiding under a rock you will know that he and fellow fist pumper Matt Pontin have recently started the company #Getin and if you have not seen it, go and check it out now….

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Mark, what do you do in the HR/Recruiting scene?

I’m coming up to almost 2 decades spent in the Recruitment industry having worked for both agency and in-house recruitment teams spanning the UK, Australia and New Zealand. Looking at the grey hair sprouting across my temples I’d say I’m a seasoned Recruiter, Talent Sourcer and social media scholar who tweets, shares, checks in, blogs and generally spends my life having fun on the small screen. The only time I’m not tweeting is when I have a fishing rod in my hand.

I’ve recently, formed a partnership with Matt Pontin and we have launched a new cool start-up called #Getin which is all about helping businesses celebrate those fist pumping moments of success – when you punch the air with joy.

A few things we offer are current state analysis of how businesses attract talent and customers, then we work to recommend improvements across People, Process, Technology and ROI. We also provide training and consulting on how best to use social media for attracting customers and talent, helping business with employer branding or social media campaigns and recruitment training for both Recruiters and hiring managers.

Why/How did you get into the industry?

It’s almost a cliche now I guess but I really did fall into recruitment. Having spent 3 months travelling and skiing around Europe I returned to London and when being interviewed by an agency for roles they offered me a role with them as their Candidate Assistant, which really meant post boy and all things admin supporting their recruitment teams. Looking for more of a challenge I presented a business proposal to the COO and ended up doing 2 trips to South Africa sourcing qualified Chartered Accountants to work in London. Things must have gone well, or maybe the Braai’s and Beers in South Africa with the COO were appreciated, as I went on to lead the Candidate Management team a few years later, sourcing candidates globally to come and work in London.

What is something we don’t know about you?

I’m a pretty open book (see previous mention of living my life on the small screen) but one of my first jobs in London was as a Security / Bodyguard at a 5 star hotel where I got to meet all sorts of movie and pop stars from Madonna to Denzel Washington plus a few Princes from a large oil producing nation.

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Which people inspire you globally?

My wife of course! On a more professional note though there are a number of people who I learn from and am inspired by, and I’ll list a few, but there are hundreds of others too:

  • Bill Boorman– the effervescence in which Bill delivers a talk and his knowledge of all things digital and social  that relate to recruitment!
  • Matt Pontin – I worked under Matt in my previous role and am now lucky enough to have him as a business partner. One of the most inspirational leaders I have worked with I’m not sure Matt ever sleeps as his ideas log would rival any good thesis going around!
  • Kirsti Grant – Kirsti was one of the first people I met when I moved to NZ in 2010 and her wit, knowledge and “just do it” attitude really made me sit up and take notice and I still learn from her today. Her drive and magnetic personality have seen her now leading one of the most awesome talent functions globally at Vend.
  • Andy HeadworthAndy made the wise decision to come and speak at a conference her in NZ a few years back and his presentation and then conversation over a few beers afterwards really got me thinking about the whole social ecosystem and how we use it for recruitment on a global scale.
  • Paul Jacobs– Paul was probably the second person I met as a “business contact” here in NZ and his “out there” personality and ideas, not just around recruitment but gaming etc. have continued to inspire me to think outside the box.
  • The Rice Consulting crewJon Rice and Sean Walters have always told it like it is, pushed the boundaries and have never been afraid to back themselves. They are the epitome of where professional relationships turn into friendships and inspired me to tell it like it is. The Whiteboard blog is something I look forward to reading each and every Friday.

What about companies then, which inspire you globally? 

That’s a tough one but the likes of Atlassian, Vend, Rackspace, Adidas and Pepsi have been pretty awesome with their approach to talent and getting their brand out into the market through their employees and awesome social campaigns.

What advice would you give someone looking to enter this industry?

Be yourself, everyone else is taken” – pretty sure that’s how the quote goes. I think Recruiters need to remember that they don’t just represent the brand they work for but their own personal brand is what potential clients are drawn to when looking to partner with Recruiters.

It is imperative Recruiters manage their online personal brands to maximise potential and draw clients to them.

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What is your favourite drink?

Coffee, coffee and more coffee although of an evening I find it hard to go past a good cold beer, generally of the craft Lager or Pilsener variety – Tuatara being the current favourite

What are you currently reading?

I love a good biography but find it hard to go past one of my favourite authors of all time and am currently reading Wilbur Smith’s “Desert God”.

Why do you love the HR and Recruiting industry?

Working with people, for me, is as fascinating as it gets. HR and Recruiting is the ultimate form of “people watching” and we get to impact people’s lives. It also seems that HR /Recruiting is leading the way in the use of digital, tech and social which is phenomenal to see! 

Who would be top 5 on your list?

For varying reasons I could add way more than 5 but you’re forcing my hand here Troy so I’ll have to say:

1. Matt Pontin

2. Jon Rice

3. Mathew Bosher

4. Paul Jacobs

5. Mark Mansour

Also all of the Vend and Fletcher Building crew and, and, and …. as I said I think there some awesome people on here!


Thanks Mark.

Maybe The Wellington Recruitment meetup can get you to come and share some wisdom at one our events one day.

Troy.